I was in a meeting with a successful executive talking about some work that I'm going to do for him. As we were talking every once in a while he would bust out with a healthy dose of obscenities.
Now, I have cursed in the past and do so occassionally now (very rarely). I did with him today what I do with everyone I meet that swears a lot, I mentioned it.
I generally say something like "I want you to know that I'm not judging this and if you keep doing it after I say it, I will not cringe or judge you then. I would normally say that you swear like a sailor, but I know that I have never met a sailor who swears as much as you do."
There is always silence. I go on "Look, to me swearing is a verbal opportunity cost. I find you interesting (only if I do will I say that by the way) and I would like to learn as much as possible. I can tell it will be difficult if you accentuate with swear words." (I mean really how many decibel gradients can one use to signify seriousness or how many derivations of these words are there?)
Often I get..."Well I don't swear around priests, kids, older folks...etc." I ask why and they often say "Out of respect, or to maintain their innocence or because I care about them" Which always elicits the response from me:
"If you don't swear in front of certain people out of respect or whatever, why do you swear in front of yourself?"
He took it very well, and I have yet to encounter someone who morphs into Dennis Hopper from Blue Velvet or anything. Some stop swearing some don't. I'm indifferent now that I've spoken my peace.
I respect your POV. But I have a number of questions on this whole topic (rhetorical, not necessarily for you to answer!). Who defined what "swear" words are? Why can I say "screw" but not "fuck"? When someone is a routine swearer, how do they use it? Swear words can be very effective to inflect emotion or make a point. I know many people in business who use fuck/screw/shit etc. strategically and effectively. Here I think it's a good thing. WHen people use words b/c they're lazy, b/c they can't think of a better word, b/c they want to seem chic or laid back, then I think it's not good. But I don't think it's an absolute.
Posted by: Ben Casnocha | March 01, 2006 at 07:50 PM
Excellent point Ben. I tend to stick with the Carlin's 7.
I even agree that swear words may be effective to inject emotion I guess. And the emotion can be all over the board (not just anger).
And, of course, I listen and dsnce to hip hop music which is littered with swear words. Often, they seem to be divisive or a waste and therefore have little effect.
I will tell you I totally tripped the first time I heard my Dad drop the f bomb.
Posted by: izontheprize | March 01, 2006 at 08:08 PM
Not that I like it, but I accept that "Swear words can be very effective to inflect emotion or make a point. I know many people in business who use fuck/screw/shit etc. strategically and effectively." But "swearing like a sailor" is totally different. I don't think it's my mission to change people, so I don't tell them, I just walk and tend to not have any business with the "sailor" type:-)
Posted by: Zoli Erdos | March 01, 2006 at 08:35 PM
Thank you for your note, Zoli. Interstingly, I tell them at the end that they may in fact continue swearing even more frequently and I'm indifferent.
I know it probably comes across pretty judgmental, I honestly don't mean it to. And it's not even a question whether it is appropriate or not because based on my experience it's accepted.
Part of it for me is thoughts, actions and words all have energy associated with them. If possible, by gently pointing this out I remind myself that I have to keep all three as loving as possible.
Posted by: izontheprize | March 01, 2006 at 09:39 PM
Customers/Clients/Colleagues like Zoli are exactly the reason that I don't swear in professional setting, unless someone initiates it.
I'm not worried about people like Tim, because he'll call me on it and I'll adjust. But people like Zoli are the ones you have to watch for, the kind they talk about in all the sales books (and a particularly awful Zig Ziglar poem) who quietly take whatever offense you give and then walk away with their business with no explanation.
Posted by: Jay | March 06, 2006 at 07:39 AM
I've actually never even thought about it from that angle, Jay. Thanks for sharing that.
Posted by: izontheprize | March 06, 2006 at 07:57 AM